Meet Ma. Ana Samson Betita also known as Mayen, the Filipina girlfriend that Timothy Ellis Cumper mentioned in this entry. Tim alleges that Mayen orchestrated an attempted money scam amounting to almost Php 92,213.39 thousand pesos ($2,000.00 plus) through an alleged fake ectopic pregnancy with a group of her Filipino friends from Tierra Maria Estates, Medical Center Parañaque, doctors and a lawyer of the latter, Chin Chin Gutierrez and many others including bloggers. (read the list of alleged scam artists). Tim Cumper never sent the money requested to pay for the hospital bills.
A few bloggers suggested that Mayen should tell her story. We finally got hold of Mayen’s contact information. I was tasked to talk to her. At first, Mayen was reluctant to tell her story. it pains me. I don’t want to talk about it anymore. Then she changed her mind when I told her that we don’t know her side of the story and that all we read is Tim Cumper’s version. On March 24, Mayen and I met up at the Starbucks Parañaque branch. I thought I was going to ask questions and she’d just reply. Surprisingly, she had a lot to tell and I didn’t have to ask that many questions. She wanted to tell her side of the story. This is Mayen’s story. I will not make any commentaries. Be the judge.
Her candid narration speaks for itself. View the one hour interview or download the 1 hour video interview (118 MB in wmv format)
Listen to the interview or read the summary below with a few video snippets for clarity.
Mayen talks of her Ectopic Pregnancy
View Video Snippet
Mayen talks of the events that transpired when Tim left for the UK after his 10 day visit to the Philippines sometime June 2007. Shortly after his departure, she felt symptons of pregnancy. She consulted with Dr. Leonardo of the Medical Center Parañaque but the symptons were too early for detection. She was told to go back July 28. However, she experienced menstrual bleeding on the first week of August and thought she was not pregnant after all. On August 10, she suffered excruciating pain which later turned out to be ectopic pregnancy based on the findings of Dra. Leonardo, an Obstetrician-gynecologist of Medical Center Parañaque. Mayen narrates that her landlady and with her two children brought her to the emergency room.
Mayen talks of the time she called Tim to inform him about her emergency ectopic surgery
She worried of the medical bills and called Tim Cumper to be ready to pay any of the bills for the surgery. Dra. Leonardo informed Mayen that an emergency operation was needed to save her from internal bleeding and eventually death. Desperate for the hospital deposit, she called her boss, Francis who in turn rushed to the hospital all the way from Mandaluyong and paid the 10,000 pesos deposit through his credit card.
Tim then and now
Mayen never thought that Tim would be the way he is today. Tim seemed to understand the Filipino culture and even asked about pasalubong he might need to buy. When Tim arrived, he appeared nice and generous. Mayen felt comfortable at once. She even introduced Tim to her friends, officemates and brought him to her Tierra Maria Estates office just to show that she had nothing to hide. Mayen found him romantic and often Tim would sing “What do you get when you fall in love?”. Mayen talked of their plans…their wedding. Tim talked of plans on residing in the Philippines if they get married after he fixed his divorce papers. Mayen was also aware that Tim was married and in fact she felt flattered that he was honest with her. That’s why she brought Tim to her parents in the home province. She has never brought any guy to meet her parents in her home province.
Mayen waited for Tim Cumper to arrive on August 15.
Mayen never expected that Tim would give her false hope. Tim failed to arrive on August 15, 2007. When her brother realized Tim wasn’t arriving and hospital bills were piling up, the brother mortgaged their coconut land to a relative for an amount of 75,000 pesos. Mayen feels the Tim during the crisis is not the Tim she knew. Still, she didn’t lose hope and thought she could fix things between themselves. She doesn’t know why Tim involved so many people in his accusations. These were the same persons who helped her during her most difficult moment.
Mayen was hopeful that “we could fix things together”.
She admits (and even to Tim) that she lied about the internet cafe’s location but it was true that her mom suffered a stroke. Despite everything, she still wanted to save their relationship. She wanted to prove that she was telling the truth and that he was wrong. For them to be okay again, Tim urged her to just admit that she was not telling the truth. How could she say that? She claims she told the truth to Tim. Her only lie was that she was going home to the province and visit her mom.
Mayen tears as she recalls those phone calls with Tim at the hospital.
Looking back, she reflects on Tim’s drastic changes. According to her, he is not the same person she knew in Manila. He was so nice and romantic to her. He was nice to her family and felt he accepted her family. She doesn’t know what she did wrong to deserve the distrust. “When he was here, I took care of him. I never stole money from him”.
She did ask for money for her new boarding house rental and internet cafe bills because she took up his offer that whenever she needed help, she should just ask him. She needed financial help from Tim.
Mayen thought they could work things out. “I think I was just so unlucky to have him”.
Mayen moves on
Mayen talks of her future. She needs to pay back the 75,000 pesos loan ($1,800.00) so her family can get back their coconut land. Her family needs the land since it helps pay the bills. She hopes to pay it through her real estate commissions if she ever closes a sale.
Mayen’s message to those who reads Tim Cumper’s blogs.
She implores “To them, they don’t have to judge… I never do (sic) anything wrong. Who wanted it to happen anyway? It was painful. It was tragic. It was the worst thing that happened to me.”
The worst thing…are the bills, my family getting affected with the bills, my friends were affected, Francis, Tierra Maria (I love them). “I didn’t want them to happen. Painful. It was not my fault.”
Mayen is emphatic “I had an ectopic pregnancy and I can prove it.”
“I had an ectopic pregnancy and I can prove it. The scar is true. The scar is with me , forever. …Painful. Whenever I take a bath, I see the scar. I can prove it to anybody, everyone and also to Tim. If only he went to the Philippines, there wouldn’t have been a problem.” (at this point Mayen tears a little)
View the video snippet below of her statement that she had ectopic pregnancy:
“One question remains…what did I really do that this had to grow big? He never sent me anything …any single cent for me (for the hospital) Instead of helping me, believing me, saying he loved me, marry me, promised me this and that but none of that materialized…instead he humiliated me, criticized me…because I am poor. He knows I am poor.”
“But see, what if I am poor? I am rich in heart” (Mayen giggles)
View video snippet:
Mayen missed him during Valentine’s Day and greeted him that day. That was the last time she talked to him. Before those times, she never read his blogs (whenever he sent the blog sites) because …
“I didn’t have the strength to read his blogs.” It was just painful for her to read. “He was accusing me of money scam. That I didn’t have ectopic pregnancy.”
“But I know the truth and that’s why I didn’t want to read his blogs.”
Mayen continued on to say that if she wanted to scam him, she would have done it while he was in the Philippines. “But I never did. I had pure intentions. I wanted to be with him. To have a relationship with him… I can’t do anything now. As I have said, they don’t have to judge me. They don’t know the truth. I know the truth. I have evidence in my body. And God knows.”
And her feelings now?
“Today…whenever it’s talked about, it is painful. I am not annoyed. Sometimes, I am emotional. I am almost okay. Sometimes, it still hurts. Whenever I am alone, it hurts.
“God knows what is best for me. If I got married to Tim, it might have been worst. It is a lesson. Then I have to move on. I have so much in life. I can have everything I want. It is true. I am young. I can meet someone so much better than Tim. My family loves me. My friends…Sir Francis..They are nice to me. I will never forget their kindness to me. It cannot be repaid.”
And her message to Tim Cumper?
“I feel cold, Timmy” (joke)
“How should I say it? I think it is over. I hope you will find peace. I always say this to him… every time you think of me, every time you are accusing me, humiliating me and criticizing me, you will never be happy because you know I am telling the truth. but you are just..your pride, your I don’t know… I don’t know your reasons why you are doing this to me, to us. I have never done wrong to you. When you were here, I took care of you. I never abused you. ”
Mayen saying “I loved you” in her message to Tim
“I loved you. It’s true. I loved you so much. Maybe it was not meant to be. It hurts…The pastor told me that all things are not meant to be. I can never forget you, right? I can never forget you because you have been a part of me. I hope you are okay. Until this time, I forgive you already. I understand because I know. Whatever is in your mind, you know. But on my side, I know I am telling the truth. God knows.”
Mayen looks up as she says “I loved him so much”.
Then Mayen laughs and recalls their song . Everytime she hears this song,”What do you get when you fall in love? You get a pin to burst your bubble?”, Mayen remembers Tim. The song is sad, Mayen muses but she loves the song anyway because of the beat.
“I hope you are well with your wife.”
Then Mayen tells me…” To tell you the truth, I really loved Tim. I am honest. My intention was pure. I was comfortable with him. I wanted to take care of him at his age now. For me, it doesn’t matter how old he is. What I feel for him , I loved him….it won’t go away but I need to move on. It is painful. But I have to. It has a great lesson for me. What is love without trust? ”
Mayen looks away and says “What is love without trust?”.
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I rest my case.
(For those who want to leave a message for Mayen, you can post it below or use the contact form. I will print the messages for her.)
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Mayen then showed photos from her cellphone camera. Her friends took these photos during her hospitalization. I used my camera to take those photos because the infrared connection from her cellphone refused to work.
Hospital Photos (click Thumbnail for Larger Size.)
Mayen at the hospital
Mayen at the hospital
Mayen with bandages on her abdomen at the hospital
Mayen at Starbucks (click Thumbnail for Larger Size)
Mayen posing with her cellphone
Me taking a picture of Mayen’s Cellphone Photos
(For those who want to leave a message for Mayen, you can post it below or use the contact form. I will print the messages for her.)
Video Credits: Thanks to Gameops.net for the editing. The video was taken by amateurish me through my macbook’s imovie software. Forgive me for some technical problems. It’s my first time to do a videocast. download the 1 hour video interview (118 MB in wmv format).
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That is Cumper’s reply (at the end of the article)?
No denials or anything, I am surprised.
I am not sure why he dates it February 21st 2008 when the time stamp clearly shows that he posted it 2008-04-04 – 03:32:23
Maybe he is trying to pretend that he predicted this?
hi i don’t think mayen got any worries about being judged every thing i read on the net about this has backed her innocence and her interview comfirms it even more. and i hope mayen can move on from this quickly without more pain and wish her all the good luck for the future
colin
Some interesting things from Cumper’s response (above):
“Proof is only profound and pertinent if it occurs when the opportunity first presents itself. At any other time – especially months down the line – one cannot avoid the question ‘Why was this not done at the time?’”
Why is it that Cumper’s journal did not show up until long after August? I think it went up around Friday, 26 October 2007.
“They allegedly did not know the people or the circumstances of the events – so in my opinion were sticking their noses where they did not belong.
This is between Mayen, Tierra Maria Estates (or more precisely, Sir Francis of Tierra Maria Estates) and myself.”
If this were true then he should have kept it to that small group, instead of posting it to the internet and asking everyone to read it and form an opinion. If this business is personal, then keep it personal. If it is public, then expect it to be treated as public.
“No adequate proof was ever sent to me in a timely manner – only excuses for why this could never be done – and as explained thoroughly in my “Psychology of A Scam” posting – behaviour, all round & throughout has been a totally inappropriate response – always relying on emotional, blackmailing methods – instead of simply furnishing unambiguous proof.”
Cumper complains about not receiving ‘timely proof’ yet expects all those who he has invited to read his blogs to believe his story without any proof at all, timely or otherwise.
Cumper says “The reason for me not passing on my address was to avoid blackmail and the sort of threats that have already appeared in emails – from coming through my letterbox at home.” Do they not have a Mailboxes etc. equivalent in the U.K.? Could he not rent some type of ‘post office box’ for her to send the evidence to instead of giving his home address? If receiving timely evidence was so important to him why didn’t he take the minimal steps necessary to receive it?
Regarding the IP address that Cumper returns to again and again. An easy google search on “Philippine IP address space” will allow the user to discover how terribly small the IP address space is in the Philippines. IP address are reused constantly by DHCP systems. Two different people showing the same IP address is insufficient proof to determine that they are the same person, that the same computer is being used, or even that they are in the same location.
“Then the video commentary continues by suggesting that because I commented to Jepoy that ‘We didn’t need sophisticated equipment – just a pair of eyes . . .’ I was proving myself a liar. You see – they are clutching at straws.
I didn’t say that we didn’t have or didn’t use sophisticated equipment – my sarcasm was obviously lost on Jepoy – but what I meant was, that it was obvious – even to the naked eye – that it was a fake scar.
Neither Jepoy nor Noemi have seen the whole of the video – so are completely unqualified to comment on its content.”
Spectral analysis will reveal nothing from a webcam video. The nature of the compression routines used makes it impossible for any such analysis to reveal anything significant from a bunch of compressed macroblocks. Some types of analysis can show where such a video might have been altered, but no type of analysis of web video is going to be able to show whether a scar is ‘fake’ or not. Anybody that works with web video more then casually knows this.
@mark –
1. on sticking our noses-
when he posted his entry on feb 2, 2008 http://filipinaimages.com/conned-by-a-filipina/, Tim subjected us to read his blogs, hence I formed an opinion. My readers formed an opinion. He shouldn’t have posted here if he didn’t want us to read it.
2. IP address-
The ISP he refers to is Globelines ( I happen to subscribe to 4 ISPs) who seems to have limited IP numbers. It’s been proven time and time again, that two people can share the same IP address. In fact one of my readers who posted a comment at the same entry has the exact same IP address up to the last 2 digits. It is very possible to share the same IP address.
Tim can easily file a case against me, ask for a court order and subpoena Globelines to get my IP number. Same with Francis. In fact , he can even compel our National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) Computer Forensics to check our computers.
3. fake scar
It’s just so dumb to base it on a video. Proof is on visual inspection. Not even photos.
Last thing he claims that the scam is such a big business in the Philippines. Now with 21 or so people sharing the attempted booty of 93,000 pesos, why risk $100 for such a complicated fake hospitalization? Hello! the working middle class in the City of Manila earn more than $100 a month. Not worth the scam for those with criminal intent.
Tim Cumper is just too paranoid. Too bad, he shattered his own dream.
One of the things they do with IP’s in the Philippines is to set up many local networks using private IP ranges and then connecting out one public IP. Businesses do this all the time. The internet cafe you visit no doubt has only 1 or 2 IPs. When you get broadband at home and connect more than one computer to it, you’re doing the same thing. In fact it is very simple to set up 254 computers on the internet using only one public IP. You don’t even have to think about it, you just set the router to DHCP and let it do the rest. Setting up for even more is possible, but then you have to know a bit more about what you’re doing.
I’ve seen and browsed these local networks in action that are set up by the internet companies in RP. Its just like browsing a home network, except the computers are in different peoples homes. This is still a trick used all over the world when the IP allocation is running short, but in a country like the Philippines with limited funds it is even more common. It was even even very common in the USA when cable TV networks started into the internet business. I’m sure some of them are still doing it yet. Shared access and shared IP’s for a smaller price while those that need a dedicated unshared IP pay more.
To get down to the basics, 254 homes can easily be on the same Public IP at the same time, although the most I’ve seen on one public IP was about 50. But this was in Davao which probably has less demand per available public IP.
Mayen, may God grant that you find mutual love with a man deserving of your own capacity to love and forgive. I know you have suffered great pain in the events that occurred, but you may have been saved from a lifetime of pain, had events not intervened and your relationship with Tim continued. The guy has obviously got some serious paranoia issues.
@cary- what a beautiful message for mayen. I believe mayen knows now why this happened. Save her from that lifetime of pain.
and the matter of IP address, mr cumper just wants to believe that there is a conspiracy going on. Drama in his life.
spectral analysis… LOL.
i first learned about this ’scam’ when i visited your blog ms noemi (aboutmyrecovery) and soon found my way in a few sites with posts related to this. later, i found ellumbra dropping my bloglog a visit. tsk. i was expecting he’d call me a scammer next. lol.
anyway, i really wish mayen the best. God has other plans for her.
Mayen, have faith in better days. God Bless.
I am in a high dudgeon to read whole story about the so-called man whose name Tim..he is nothing just a dirt-cheap sex beggar and brazen-faced ( sorry that I can’t find any worse word to call that man ) swindler hidden under the clean cover..
I am deeply sympathy to Mayen and hope she would get a compensation from God for all what she suffered..ad hope that time would help to heal the wound in her heart..
Lee
Oh what a mess! Tim actually believes that a whole lot of people are conspiring to scam him of $2,000 including Ms. Noemi!
I really do feel sad for everyone involved specially for Mayen. Everyone makes a mistake in this life and her mistake happens to be falling for an old married man who is unhappy with his life.
How can we keep other Filipinas safe from him? He should be black listed and never step foot in the Philippines again! How do we put him in the immigration black list?
I wish Mayen the best and hope that she can move on with her life.
@mnel- lol, if you commented and disagreed with him, then you would have been part of the scam
@Lie_finder- I truly hope she heals in time.
@KK- yes imagine $2000 divided by 21 people accused of being in a scam…That’s roughly $95.00 each for all the trouble?!?
I have written the British embassy already and filed a letter of complaint for their FYI. They know already.
I have read both sides and it seem that it is all about miscommunication which led to mistrust and paranoia. It is a sad fact to accept but there are scammers in the Philippines and he may have just thought you are one. He has presented plausible arguments and you have also presented your arguments and answers. However, all of this is just making things more confusing and chaotic. Adding more mess to an already messy situation. I do feel for you because its not easy to be left brokenhearted, but knowing us filipinas, you can be better. There are many things that you can still do to fix all of these whether you want to get back together or get back at him. Playing the game of love is definately risky hence we all should be prepared for the possibility of a broken heart. I wish you good luck and peace of mind.
I followed this story with great interest, i say story for the benefit of Tim. I can only ask that all who read this saga will not judge the English people based on the wrong doings of Tim, he clearly has massive issues although appears to be very intelligent. I can only offer my heart felt sorry to Mayen, wish her well in the future and ask that she does not think all English act in this unforgivable manner. you had a lucky escape Mayen, to think that you could have spent many years with this man. God moves in mysterious ways, so people say. Take care Sweetie.
Tim just needs to end this with a sliver of honor, apologize publicly, take down his blog, and give her the money for the hospital bills. Will he do this? probably not. We all face the same God at judgement Timmy, think about it.
I hope Mayen can get on with her life and find someone worthy of her love. Tim lost out on what could have been great love.
I hope that Tim won’t be able to set foot back in the Philippines at the least.
@ Dave = UK – feel free to get in touch with me – there are a couple of ways on the blog Hospital Scams – in fact I urge you to get in touch with me – because when you have gone through this in detail with me, I’m sure you will change your mind – I know you will – especially if I show you the video.
So I look forward to your message.
Noemi – if this comment gets deleted – we’ll know that you have not got one decent bone in your being.
Elllumbras last blog post..Tierra Maria Estates Scam – 0 – Introduction
Hi i am Pete (Melbourne, Australia), and i had a recent (25 Oct 2008) experience similar to Tim’s on Mindoro – White Beach (bgy. Aninuan) Pto. Galera. whats with all these filipinas (pinay) trying to get hooked up with a white guy (guapo face) ?
my lady friend Jenny Delerio thought she was pregnant after 2 weeks of comfortably us living together…how can that be. i smelt a rat right away. truth is she was just trying to get pregnant with a white guy from Australia (thats me) as advised by her older sister Dolia in Mindanao. i thought it was so funny at the start, but became really bizzar as the weeks followed. i told the family and her Aunt Shirley that i was not falling for this shit. They all went off (scootered) to the towns Oby (RN maternal) to have Jen and the pregnancy checked out (i was thinking this is good…finally some real insight). well, guess what ? the Oby came back and said it may be twins (i don’t think so). this was Shirleys and Jens idea to extract some hard earned cash $ out of my dear self (playing a good cop, bad cop scenario). it was all a con, no pregnancy, and no chance of one as Jen is sterile and it was confirmed by a Gyno later on in November 08′.
they had me fouled for about 10 seconds, even the grandma Nicoleeza got in on the act…”com’n guys you best get married now”.
i must admit there are some delusional people in Mindoro, it must be the heat melting the brain cells.
if you have any questions, i name is Pete,
feel free to email me: petepapachristoforos@yahoo.com